Robert F. Kennedy Jr. was the first person to recognize that Charles Ortleb presciently warned the world decades ago about Anthony Fauci when he told his 600,000 Instagram followers in April, 2020 to check out Ortleb's book, "Fauci, the Bernie Madoff of Science and the HIV Ponzi Scheme that Concealed the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic." No journalist has written more books that sounded the alarm about the intertwined nature of the Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, AIDS, and HHV-6 epidemics than Charles Ortleb. A thorough understanding of these epidemics must begin with the reading of Ortleb's unique books. Four decades of writing and thinking about what can only be called a political and biomedical cover-up have turned Ortleb into one of the most important political philosophers of science and writers of his time. His uncompromising work has made him the George Orwell and Hannah Arendt of his generation. Anyone who calls his pioneering journalism and world-class level of critical political and philosophical thinking "misinformation" either has not read his books or is engaged in an obvious political agenda. As a publisher, editor, and author, Charles Ortleb has been warning the world that Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is a contagious pandemic caused by a virus that can trigger a spectrum of illnesses and that it can be both chronic and fatal. Ortleb has insisted that Chronic Fatigue Syndrome is at the center of a public health crisis that still has not been recognized by the scientific, medical, and media elite. The deaths of a number of people from complications of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome are finally waking the world up to the importance of his work and the wisdom of all of his books. Charles Ortleb was the publisher and editor-in-chief of Christopher Street, New York Native, and Theater Week. At Christopher Street, he was responsible for launching many of our most celebrated writers and artists. At the helm of New York Native, he was the first journalist to take the AIDS and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome epidemic seriously. In Rolling Stone, David Black said that the New York Native deserved a Pulitzer Prize for its coverage of AIDS. The investigative reporting he published by journalists like John Lauritsen and Neenyah Ostrom is still required reading for any historian that wants to know the true story of AIDS and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. Ortleb created HHV-6 University online to continue reporting on the virus that links AIDS and Chronic Fatigue Syndrome to autism and many other emerging epidemics. No writer in the world has done more reporting on HHV-6 than Ortleb. After New York Native went out of business in 1997, Ortleb began to focus on his own career as a writer. In the last twenty years he has written nonfiction, history, political philosophy, poetry, cartoons, and plays. He helped turn his book "The Last Lovers on Earth" into a film. He is also a lyricist and has written the words for several albums by Chris Davidson on Spotify. INTERVIEW WITH CHARLES ORTLEB Is it true that you were the first publisher to take AIDS seriously in 1981? Yes. I recognized early on that it would be a huge story. Is it true that Rolling Stone said you deserved a Pulitzer Prize for your AIDS coverage? Yes, back in the 80s. Are these books available at Amazon in all countries? Yes. Why do you call the AIDS epidemic Holocaust II? Because anyone who studies AIDS as I have (for 35 years) must come to the conclusion that AIDS science is very much like Nazi science and AIDS medicine is very much like Nazi medicine. The Jewish people were the primary targets of Holocaust I, but gays are the primary victims of Holocaust II. But not the only ones. The whole population is endangered by the lies of Holocaust II. Why doesn't the gay community realize that AIDS is Holocaust II? They have been hoodwinked into thinking the Centers for Disease Control is telling them the truth about the epidemic. The CDC's AIDS paradigm is essentially a Potemkin village. But is not just the gay community and the black community that is forced to live in that village. The whole world is. My book, The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic Cover-up details how that happened and how the fraud is being maintained. You have described AIDS/CFS science and the HHV-6 cover-up as a giant Bernie Madoff type of scientific Ponzi scheme. What do you mean by that? A scientific Ponzi scheme begins with a central seminal or foundational scientific fraud and is sometimes built on an infrastructure of smaller scientific frauds. Like the fake dividends issued in a strictly financial Ponzi scheme, a scientific Ponzi scheme issues fake dividends in the form of ongoing fraud-based research often framed as "breakthroughs" and bogus extrapolations which make it look like everything is above board and that what, in reality, is scientific fraud, appears to the rest of the scientific community and the public as good faith progress. A classic scientific Ponzi scheme like the Fauci-Gallo-Montagnier-Agut HIV Fraud Ponzi Scheme and HHV-6 Cover-up include elements like these: 1. Nosological fraud. 2. Epidemiological fraud. 3. Virological fraud. 4. Treatment fraud. 5. Public health policy fraud. 6. Concealment of negative scientific data and paradigm-challenging anomalies. 7. Use of an elite network of "old boys" and pseudo-activist provocateurs to censor critics and whistleblowers. 8. Chronic obscurantism. 9. If necessary, vigilantism and witch-hunts against any intellectuals, scientists, or citizens who constitute any form of resistance to the Ponzi scheme. 10. A subservient scientific press that is used as a conveyor belt for the Ponzi scheme's propaganda. Everything always looks like it is working perfectly in a scientific Ponzi scheme, until the moment comes when someone look at the books and blows the whistle. Hopefully, that game-changing moment for the HIV Fraud Ponzi scheme and HHV-6 cover-up is coming soon. When did you first start to question the CDC's AIDS science? When I caught them lying about some test results. It is detailed in my books. But my critical thinking really took off when Peter Duesberg, a prominent scientist, found serious credibility gaps in the establishment's HIV dogma. I write about Duesberg's ideas in my book The Duesbergians. What philosopher has had the biggest impact on your thinking about AIDS, or what you call Holocaust II? Hannah Arendt. I think it would have taken her about two seconds to recognize that the science of AIDS was very political and very totalitarian. It would not have surprised her that it ultimately threatens the health of the whole population. You can learn more about her influence on my thinking here. Did Hannah Arendt inspire your new book about the politics of science called Iatrogenocide? Very much so. How would you describe your book Iatrogenocide? The subtitle of the book is "Notes for a Political Philosophy of Epidemiology and Science." It consists of ideas culled from notebooks I have kept over the last decade while I did a lot of reading and thinking about the political nature of science in order to try and understand how the gay and black communities were bamboozled into believing the scientific frauds that have trapped them in a biomedical gulag. What is the moral of Iatrogenocide? That epidemiological power corrupts and absolute epidemiological power corrupts absolutely. What other writers and thinkers have informed your thinking? Thomas Kuhn, Isaiah Berlin, Orwell, Sartre, and Camus. And many others. Why is The Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Epidemic Cover-up so controversial? A lot of powerful interests who are responsible for this mess are threatened by the real story of HHV-6, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, autism and AIDS. If enough people read my book, there will be calls for a congressional investigation into everything we've been told about AIDS, chronic fatigue syndrome, HHV-6, and autism. Just for starters. All kinds of class action lawsuits could be launched.